Don’t use Frontier Airlines, Priceline.com

Posted by Tom on March 17th, 2009

I’m stuck in Atlanta.

I booked on Priceline.com. I needed to be in Atlanta for a day, so flew in late last night via Frontier Airlines.

On the first leg of the trip (with Frontier partner, United), the flight left 20 minutes late because a computer failure required all baggage to be processed manually. Fortunately, the pilot was able to make up the time (and then some) on the way to Denver.

On the second leg of the trip (Denver to Atlanta, on Frontier), the flight was delayed more than an hour for “weather reasons,” although no other flight into Atlanta, both from the same airline and from any other airline was delayed out of Denver. When questioned, Atlanta locals admitted there was some light rain that morning, but nothing that should have caused delays. After boarding, we sat on the tarmac for another hour waiting to take off while the pilot got clearance from the tower. We got in about two-and-a-half hours late.

Frontier Airlines cancelled my return flight, and didn’t tell me until I arrived at the airport. The agent at the counter said it was due to mechanical reasons. They claimed to have contacted the hotel I was staying at, but I had checked out in the morning—I was staying only the single night, after all. Although I had provided my contact information to Priceline.com, the airline was only given my hotel number. Frontier had no later flights, and they refused to provide a ticket on another airline that was leaving a couple of hours later. I was not offered any compensation for likely hotel charges caused by their inability to properly run an airline.

Checking with Delta (the other carrier who did have a flight running), a one-way ticket would have cost me in excess of $750, due to exorbitant walk-up prices (+ taxes; no love from Delta either). No wonder airlines are never profitable. The marginal cost to get me on that flight would have been negligible, but it seems they would rather do without the extra money than actually provide airline service.

The Frontier Airlines representative gave me the phone number to the airline’s “customer service center.” She neglected to mention they’d closed already. (5:00 pm Mountain. Really?) I had the option of leaving a voicemail to tell them what I think of them, and how I would very much like them to give me money back for not providing the service I paid for. I hung up without leaving a message rather than break into uncontrolled swearing.

I figured maybe Priceline.com might be willing to help out. Nope. After entering my eleven-digit confirmation number and home phone number, the answering agent asked for it all again. (I despise when companies do this—and many companies are guilty. If you require information be keyed in, provide it to the answering agent and stop wasting my time!)

I explained my problem to the agent, who put me on hold for 10 minutes while he “logged the details of my problem into the computer.” Uh-huh. He then came back on the line and told me the hotel fee was non-refundable. WTF? That had nothing to do with my problem. I explained again I was stuck in Atlanta because the airline was clueless, and would like them to find me a way home. More waiting. I finally got a warm hand-off (at least he got that part right) to a guy who told me the entire thing was non-refundable (even when it was the fault of the airline—federal consumer protection laws be damned), and that they would do nothing for me, not even check to see how much a flight on the other airline would cost me (it might be less than the walk-up rate). At no time did the fact that I paid for a service they were unable to provide factor in to his thinking.

The trouble with this story is that it could have easily been prevented or solved by either company.

Priceline.com: (1) Forward my contact phone number to the airline. The say they tried calling me. They could have only gotten my hotel’s phone number from you–go ahead and give them my actual contact information. It would have been easier. I would have have to cut my meetings short by a few hours, but at least then I might have had some options. It would have prevented the entire snafu. (2) Implement a useful automated answer program. The last thing you want to do is make a frustrated customer irate, and that’s all your system seems to do from my end. (3) Take care of your customer. The airline’s cancellation was beyond my control. Bend over backward to get me out of Atlanta, and not only am I your customer for life, you get a heartwarming story told to everyone about how cool you are. A permanent customer, and some free word-of-mouth publicity for a couple hundred dollars. Instead you get this. I hope it costs more.

Fronteir Airlines: (1) Again, would it really have been that difficult to have put me on another airline? This was your fault, after all. The customer desk agent was polite, and surprisingly helpful, although she maintained a somewhat condescending attitude. Again, is the cost of losing a customer and bad publicity worth the little bit extra it would have cost you to put me on a different airline? You already have my money, after all. (1b) As a second, half-baked make-up attempt to win me back, you can refund my money for the second flight (or provide some other consideration for the inconvenience), but I won’t hold out hope. I have no expectation you will respond with any sort of integrity; you are in the airline business, after all. (2) You may want to consider waiting until after all of your domestic flights have left (or, even better, arrived!) before closing your customer service center. Really.

UPDATE: Frontier cancelled another of my flights on the way home (no explanation), keeping me in Denver for several extra hours, and forcing me to (again) reschedule my transportation home from the airport. It was in Denver that I saw the first smiling Frontier employee of the trip too.

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12 Responses to “Don’t use Frontier Airlines, Priceline.com”

dude… learn the facts before u start making accusations!

booking through priceline is where you made ALL the mistakes. your contract is with THEM not Frontier. Priceline does not provide your information to the airline so the fact they even got to your hotel shows just how good they actually are as that means they contacted priceline and priceline gave them the only information they are legally allowed to give (as they can not give you number by law).

also, NO airlines is obliged to put u on another airline. actually, very few are now doing this (jetblue, southwest, virgin america, and many more) as it can actually be a dis-service when it comes to luggage, seat selection and more.

the customer serivce dept closes business hours as nearly every airlines does. the reservations agents are open 24hrs. but again, booking through a search engine f’d you up…. save money and be cheap, you have to expect a limited service. pay peanuts… be the monkey!

All that is required of the airline is to get you to your destination. It really doesn’t matter when they get you there. If they can’t get you there, you should get your money back, but you paid priceline and not the airline, so you should get your money back through them. This happened to me a few christmases ago. Our flight on Dec. 21st was cancelled due to weather. There (of course) were no other available flights for 5 or six days (putting us at our destination AFTER Christmas) which sort of missed the point. After about 20+hours on the phone, (and NO accommodations from with the airline or the ticket provider (I think cheaptickets.com)) we finally found someone willing to talk to us and find the best solution, which was to be rerouted to another airport (in the general vicinity) at least the day before Christmas. There was no compensation for the extra fees for renting a car at a different location, but at least we got to where we needed to be. Unfortunately, unless you pay the full fare (who does that anymore?) the airline requires nothing of themselves. They figure they’re already doing you a major service by letting you on their airplane for so little money that if they provide you any extra service they would be in the red. The truth of the matter is, they’re operating the plane with or without you, so charging you more for service makes no sense.

After a few snafus where a booking agent like Orbitz or Hotwire royally screwed up and then shrugged at me when I asked for help, I started booking directly with the airlines. Even if I did pay more to do so (which doesn’t seem to happen very often), it’s worth it to know that I don’t have to deal with the airline pointing at the booking agent and vice versa. Plus hotels, car rental companies, and airlines all treat you as a second-class customer when you booked through one of those guys.

Frontier is one of the best airlines for reaccomodating you on other airlines when they have a mechanical issue (not weather). However, they don’t have a ticketing agreement with Delta, so if that was the airline that had a later flight, Delta will not accept Frontier’s reaccommodated passengers.

FYI, you are entitled to a refund of the unused portion of your ticket if there was a mechanical cancellation (not related to weather) if Frontier was unable to ticket you on another airline. If you request a refund, either from a ticket counter or reservations department, they will issue a refund. However, it will only be credited to the original credit card. If you paid some other way, it will be refunded to Priceline and you’ll have to get the refund from them. That’s how it works.

Delta (according to the Delta ticketing agent) will purchase a ticket on any airline if Delta has a mechanical failure. Part of my frustration was the Frontier agent said: “there are no flights on any airline,” a claim that was quickly refuted by glancing at the departures board. When I went back to ask about it, she explained she meant no flights on airlines they have ticketing agreements with. So far as I’m aware, that means United.

I’m well aware that I’m entitled to a refund for the unused portion—but no one was willing to provide it when asked. From a practical perspective I’m better off just being pushed around by the airline, as there were no less expensive alternatives to getting home. It’s unfortunate that companies are willing to exploit a customer’s compromised position (which they created).

To the first commenter: Let’s not confuse what a company should do with what it’s required to do. Effective companies turn their customers into evangelists. I have had extremely positive customer service experiences with some companies despite lack of product or some other breakdown (e.g., Men’s Wearhouse, Amazon.com), and was so well taken care of that I share these experiences with colleagues and promote the company. It’s is important to recognize that a customer’s experience doesn’t affect only the single customer, but a broader community.

Where you need to contact customer service is on the expenses of the delay. Read through their contract of carriage on http://www.frontierairlines.com/frontier/pdf/Contract_of_Carriage.pdf. Because it was a delay or their fault (mechanical) and it lasted more than 4 hours the airline should have provided hotel, food and transportation. Rule 240 D 1 – 4.

Tom,

I am very sorry for the problems you had with your trip, but I do want to thank you for providing me with this valuable information. I have always booked directly with the airline and am about to go on a family vaction to DisneyWorld. I have been searching constantly through priceline, hotwire, and some others trying to get the best possible deal. Instead I am now booking my nonstop flight to Orlando with Southwest Airlines(which does not show up on the booking companies). It is only 20.00 more per person on Southwest with a nonstop flight both ways, no extra baggage fees, and great customer service. Thank you very much for preventing me from ruining my family trip to DisneyWorld.

Frontier Airlines has now decided that people purchasing “Economy” tickets are not worthy of getting seat assignments when they purchase their tickets. They must wait until 24 hours before the flight and be assigned a seat. $486 for a ticket was not enough money to secure a seat. I just called their so-called “Customer Relations” agent and told them what I thought of their policy. They are no cheaper than United when flying to Denver, so why bother. Frontier sucks!!!!

I bought a last minute ticket this week to attend a funeral for a dear family friend. The night before the trip I ended up in the ER with my 6 day old daughter who had a fever. It was incredibly scary for about 76 hours, and the last thing on my mind was canceling my ticket. 5 days later she is still in the hospital but stable so I had a minute to call about my missed reservation. Terry, a supervisor, told me tough shit. Because I bought the so-called “economy ticket” which is anything but on a last minute flight, there was nothing I could do about it because that was the way their computer system worked. she was so smug and condescending she had the nerve to tell me that I had read the terms and conditions and I should have been aware of their policy. When I told her it was that kind of customer service that made the airline industry what it was, she told me Frontier had the best customer service in the industry. I am stunned.

Here I am, stuck in the Denver airport. I was in Aspen for a conference. Arrived the required 1.5 hrs prior to departure for my Frontier Airlines flight. Because of “rainy weather” in Denver which would not allow any flights in, I was unable to make my connecting flight in Denver. Which is weird, because my flight in Denver appears to have taken off without a hitch on time. After sitting in Aspen for 5 hrs(4 hrs in Airport, 1 hr on Tarmac), I was finally able to make it to Denver. And stuck with the hundreds of others stranded in Denver as well.

So, while I was in Aspen, I asked to be put on Standby for the next flight available. When I got to Denver, apparently they couldn’t give me an idea of whether I would likely make the next available flight. Mind you, this flight has been delayed about six hrs as well.

So, I asked them if there were any flights the next morning so that I could have a guaranteed seat. They told me that I could have a seat…if I bought it.

So…wait…you have seats…you have people who need seats because they were bumped. And you won’t give them to us because you want to sell them FIRST?

I am truly astounded by this logic. And I’m pretty certain that I’ll never fly Frontier again. Weather excuse my a**.

Yeah-Frontier. Just tried to get on a flight to San Deigo booked on Expedia-got to the counter almost 2 hours ahead and told no can do-mechanical problems. Next flight we can get is 9:30 on another carrier-it is 12 noon. Okay nine hours in airport-Frontier books us on a United flight. We go to the United counter to get everything confirmed-and possibly standby for 2 earlier flights. United sayd “you aren’t booked on this flight” after waiting in line 1 and 1/2 hours. Back to Frontier-wait in line-yes you are booked-back to United where by gum, now we are booked. Standby good-get on 4 pm flight United-bags get put on 9:30 flight (which they assured us wouldn’t happen). Whatta day. Not much customer service at DIA-hate that place.

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